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Other
online postings/feedback concerning a variety of schools. These
are all verifiable and have been on various aviation message boards,
discussion lists, and guest books. Names of authors and other
dispatch schools have been edited. Trust us, we couldn't
make these up. They're authentic - some are scary, but all are authentic.
E.M.
The
following 3 emails arrived within 1 day of each other - a good summary
of what Sheffield consistently receives:
2
Separate emails (from NON-Sheffield grads) & 1 Catalog Request:
Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:46:02
"I have a Dispatcher Cert. from ---- Academy .... I've been
thinking of getting back into it. Could you adive (sic) me which
course books would refresh the memory. I'm also interested in your
advanced
training...Thanks!
Sun,
20 Jan 2008 16:16:41
Sheffield Web site found through (recommended by): Graduate of other
dispatch school.
Sun,
20 Jan 2008 14:24:57
Since my graduation, I have been applying to an aircraft dispatcher
position but still I have no job. I
have been thinking of a professional training to perform my studies
and made the companies believe in my capabilities. I saw on your
website that you offer some training to recent graduates and I would
like to have your advice about my case. My resume is attached to
further information about myself. I would really like to be in the
aviation field again but since my experience is old and have some
gaps may be the training will be very helpful.
Thanks in advance for your time.
I.P. (attended a school in the Northern U.S.)
[Sheffield
graduates never write us of "training gaps" or request
help from other "schools." 3 sad cases - try not to become
one as well...EM]
STABILITY
vs. Instability
Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:51:22
Subject: ------- IS OUT OF BUSINESS!!!
Email from a airline friend: "I just got a call from a prospective
student who was attending --- school last year. He had to leave
due to a family emergency, and decided to try to go back this year.
After being completely unable to contact the school office, he called
one of the instructors (---). The instructor told him that --- is
out of business and has been for a month.
This prospective student said that to add insult to injury, he's
out the four thousand dollars that he paid them.
[This
student arrived at Sheffield in January, and departed Sheffield
in February with a dispatcher Certificate!]
From:
"T----- G------" ---@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 15:03:42
Subject: Dispatch course info.
Dear sir/Madam,
I have obtained FAA Single Engine CPL and Flight Dispatch Licence
from P------ E--- Aviation Florida. I had to Quit Aviation due to
some unavoidable reason in year 2000...
I wish to continue my studies please send
me required Info. I'm looking forward to a school which will
give me, some extent of practical experience.
T.G. (India)
Sheffield
note: his school is still in business, but he seeks help
from Sheffield.
--------
Airlines, John -- 09/05/00 -- 15:32:09 Domain: ---.---.---.-- IP
address: ---.---.---.-- I would like to warn everyone about ---
Aircraft Dispatch Training, I recently attended the school in -----------,
and it was the worst experience of
my life, the main instructor constantly contradicted
himself and seemed more lost than the students at times. The president
of the school was very rude and actually threatened to kick me out
when I expressed my concerns about the quality of the class to her.
The only good thing that I had to say about this school is that
the climate in --------- is nice in the summer. I would strongly
urge everyone to stay as far away from this school as they can,
the head instructor is incompetent, the class structure has no rhyme
or reason and if they can screw you over they will.
Posted
by -------- on August 30, 2000 at 20:36:34: In Reply to: Re:
---- training posted by -------- on August 30, 2000 at 20:29:49:
The thing you should know about ----- ------dispatch program is
that you must complete the program in addition to your bachelors
degree. You cannot just attend the dispatch portion of the curriculum.
I went through their program and feel that the license could have
been attained in a much less expensive and time consuming manner.
Message
1230 of 1234 Reply SCHOOL QUES.??? ---------- 9/18/00 8:32 pm I'm
currently looking at dispatcher schools and wanted to know if anyone
has heard anything on in ---------, --- Thanks!
Message 1233 of 1234 Reply Re: SCHOOL QUES.??? -------- (33/M/Boston(area),
Ma) 9/19/00 9:32 am Yeah- Avoid it
like the plague. We had some people in our class
that went there until the instructor just stopped showing up. On
the bright side, I think they got their money back - after a few
months. This Is a Reply to: Msg 1230 by ----------
messages
<- Previous Next -> Message 806 of 808 Reply xxxxx's Dispatch Charm
School aaaaaaaaaaarrrrgh 7/26/00 1:22 am
The school in ------ used to pass everyone..... everyone. You get
your monies worth there! If a good ole boy from Tennessee can pass,
then anyone can get a license. I recommend that school if you want
a quick "no frills" certification.
The
carreer is what you make of it, but I will say this, the 3 worst
(as far as work ethic goes) employees I have ever hired came from
the ------ school. The school in --- was continuously
threatened with being shut down because of their
high failure rate. I believe it was once......My real point was
(as was stated several times after my "insensitive" statement) that
your carreer is what you make of it, and no school can motivate
you if you don't want to be motivated. The instructor CAN make the
classes appeal to you, to the point that participating would make
you want to make the $$$$ worth being spent. Sheffield did that
for me (and a few others I know) and IN MY MIND, some of the other
schools didn't do that as evident by the quality of SOME of their
students that I have come in contact with. That's all I will say
and I appologize if I have insulted those that went to others schools.
You all have made this a carreer choice and have worked as hard
as anyone to get to where you are today. I still think Sheffield
is an excellent school though. This Is a Reply to: Msg 790 by -------.
-----------
Message 740 of 772 Reply Re: Thinking of getting dispatch license
---------(25/M/Phoenix, Arizona) 7/13/00 10:13 pm
I'd suggest Sheffield for your dispatch school.
I attended there. I have heard from
everyone that I know that it is the most respected school in the
field. It is extremely hard but if you make it thru,
you will have an outstanding grasp on dispatch. M--- ------- messages
<- Previous Next ->
Message 751 of 772 Reply Re: Thinking of getting dispatch license
--- 7/14/00 10:37 pm I highly recommend Sheffield for getting your
license. I went there last summer to get mine. In addition to being
the oldest and most respected they also cost about the same as any
other school, they offer job placement and free recurrent training
to all of their grads. Its a lot of work but when you get to the
job it'll pay off in dividends. This Is a Reply to: Msg 740 by ----------
Posted
by T-- on September 12, 1999 at 21:37:08: In Reply to: Heard of
any good Airline Dispatcher Schools??? posted by B-- on May 21,
1999 at 10:55:11:
I graduated from Sheffield...It can get intense with the amount
of information you will learn. I am a dispatcher for ASA and I really
do love what I do. I do recommend passing the Dispatcher written
(same as the ATP written) before you start taking the class.
You will learn alot from Sheffield, and if you have any aviation
knowledge now, forget it, you will find out just how little you
actually know. I enjoyed it very much. Good Luck!
It is well worth the time, money and effort you put into it.
Posted by ET on May 22, 1999 at 17:34:15: In Reply to: Heard of
any good Airline Dispatcher Schools??? posted by B-- on May 21,
1999 at 10:55:11: Sheffield School of Aeronautics. Great rep within
the industry and they also have lifetime job placement.
Subject:
Re: Aircraft Dispatcher License School /FT. LAUDERDALE-FL
Date:
4/19/2000 1:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: -------- Message-id:
<20000419134134.04129.00002510@------.com> Well said! I worked for
an airline where we have hired people from ----- and had
to fire them within a few months because they were had no clue about
FAR's, Weather, A/C Performance and were incapable of doing the
job. I have know dispatchers from both ----- and
Sheffield, and from what I can see
Sheffield students come out of school prepared for the industry.
This is a safety sensitive job, which demands the ability to make
quick and accurate decisions under pressure. There are alot of people
who just cannot perform these tasks. It is a shame that schools
like ----- will let anyone struggle through, then the airline who
hires them wastes several weeks training them just to have them
wash out. Thus, the department is strained and has to seek another
candidate and start the training process all over again.
Subj:
Re:Ops Date: 11/26/97 8:50:09 PM
From:
---- Can't help but jump in with my own two cents here. Being that
I am a Sheffield graduate, as well as an instructor at a competing
dispatch school! I went through Sheffield's program in 1992. It
was an excellent program, with fine instructors. Eric is top notch.
The entire Morris family is very well respected in aviation. I received
my first dispatch job with Sheffield's assistance. From that time
5 years ago, I am now the Dispatch Manager at ----- Air, Inc., as
well as a part-time dispatch instructor at ---------. Obviously,
Sheffield's training must've provided me with a solid basis, or
I couldn't possibly be where I am just 5 years later. When
I interview prospective employees, you can bet that if their résumé
includes Sheffield, I feel confident I know what I am getting.
They do not pump out paper dispatchers
with a "test prep" course down there. They provide quality training,
and that's an endorsement from the "competition", but I gotta tell
it like it is! ----
And
from some of those who made the wrong choice...and
now request help:
Subject:
Re: Questions
On 12/15/03 12:52 PM, "xxxxx xxxxxxx" <(email address)>
wrote:
Good Morning.
I had recently earned an Aircraft Dispatcher License last October.
My problem is quite simple I think.
The school I attended in Texas appeared to have
no true industry contacts for job placement, what
can Sheffield do to help me there.
My other real concern is when I went on an interview with
a good sized regional carrier, the interview was going quite well
until the manager asked me about the computer applications used
by his and most other companies. We as a class had no exposure and
I feel this is a major reason why I did not get the job. I need
to work on my skills and make myself more marketable. Can
you teach Flight Planning using computers as well as help me update
manual applications? If yes, what
can I do to sign up for a recurrent course?
I had previously received information about Sheffield and its programs.
It appears that I might have made
a mistake by staying home and doing my training in Texas. Is it
too late for me?
Thank you for your time I can be reached at: xxx-xxx-xxxx or (email
address).
Sincerely,
xxxxx xxxxx - Sheffield note: Compare
with an
email that arrived 4 days later
in my mailbox. EM
Select
the correct school to begin with...it may help you later on in life..
Eric,
I and one of my co-workers are interested in attending a refresher
course. We are both dispatch managers and dispatchers. He
is a graduate of Sheffield but I am not.
Am I allowed to take the refresher course from Sheffield even if
I am not a Sheffield graduate? If you would allow me to attend,
can you please email me the information?
Thanks
---- -----
------- Airways
----,
Your co-worker can take refresher at any anytime by sitting in part
or all of any of our dispatcher courses at no cost. You would have
to pay based on time attended. Ex. 6 weeks = $4,400, etc...
Best Regards,
Eric Morris, President
Sheffield School of Aeronautics (est. 1948)
There
is a reason why non-Sheffield graduates and dispatchers request
our Refresher Training. Again, select the correct school to begin
with...learn more - save money!
From:
"xxxxxx xxxxx" <xxxxxxx@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 13:37:14 -0400
To: Eric Morris
Subject: employment
Hello, my name is xxx. I am a graduate of the dispatcher program
in
(xxxxxx xxxxx) roughly 2 months ago. I was wondering if I could
accumulate a username and password so I could get some jobs. My
school isn't very good at that sort of thing I guess. I keep on
them but they seem to be to busy and they never
update their job listings page. the last update
was back in January. Please my wife and I need some work.
I was in the (military) doing flight dispatch and went to get my
FAA certification after that and now I just want to work.
Thank You!
N.R.R.
Date:
Tue Sep 10, 2002 07:02:47 AM US/Eastern
To: morris@sheffield.com
From: xxxxxx<xxxxxxx@----ates.net.-->
Subject: INQUIRY
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:47:24 +0400
-----
DEAR SIR,
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE FLIGHT DISPATCHER
TRAINING COURSE. ACTUALLY I WAS THE STUDENT OF XXXXX IN XXXXXXXX
COLLEGE OF XXXXX XXX AND SUCCEFULLY COMPLETED MY COMPUTER TEST REPORT...BUT
IN I COULDNT PASSED THE ORAL EXAM IN FIRST TRY AND WHILE WAITING
FOR 2ND ATTEMPT THE US STATE DEPARTMENT HAS BANNED
THE XXXXX DUE .... ACCORDING TO THEM.
AND I AM STILL IN A HANGING POSITION AND WAITING FOR THE POSITIVE
REPLY. WHEN I SEE YOUR WEBSITE I DECIDED TO APPROACH TO YOU IN A
COMPLETION MY TRAINING COURSE I WOULD TO KNOW THAT HOW YOUR SCHOLL
(sic) WILL HELP ME AND OTHERS OF MY FREINDS TO SAVE
MY FUTURE. PLEASE REPLY ME IN DETAILED THAT.........SHOULD
I APPEAR IN ORAL EXAM THROUGH UR SCHOOL IF YES THEN WHAT IS THE
PROCEDURE AND HOW MUCH THE FEES? THANKS & B. REG.
XXXXXXXX XXXX
From:
morris@sheffield.com
To: morris@sheffield.com
From: ------- --------<---------@yahoo.com>
Subject: Unspecified
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 00:58:21 -0700 (PDT)
-----
Dear Mr Sheffield:
This request from you maybe a little out of the ordinary. My name
is -- an I would like to if I may know of any position in the area
of airline dispatcher that any of your students or you may know
of an I may get in touch with to assist me in working as a Airline
dispatcher. In a nutshell here are my credentials I have a ....as
well as a FAA dispatchers liceanse that I received back in --- 2000
from the ---- training center in ----- -----. I was working for
.. , Mr. Sheffield would it be at all possible to assist me with
this endeavor of finding a email address or a person to talk with
from ------- airlines or ...... I so look forward to hearing from
you, an I thank-you for your time as well as your any effort.
Sincerely,
R.A.
Date:
Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:26:04 -0400
Subject: Dispatcher needs your help
Hi...I am writing to you because I need your help finding a dispatch
job. I am a new graduate (as of may 2002) from XXXXXX XXXXXX and
I currently live in (northeast U.S.) This being a career change
for me, it took me a very long time before I made this decision
to go ahead and take the plunge...for many years I considered attending
your school down in florida, but was never able to work out the
financials of living out of state for 2 months, as it would have
been too much of a financial burden for me. After many years of
putting the idea aside, it came to my attention that XXXXXX XXXXXX
had started offering the course right here in my neck of the woods
at xxx in xx. Since I would be able to live at home while attending
it became an affordable alternative and I decided to give it my
best shot...I did quite well (scoring in the mid-high 90's on all
of my quizes/exams. I passed my FAA computer test with an 83 after
4 weeks, my (school) written final with a 95 on the 6th week, and
passed my FAA oral and obtained my adx license on the 7th week.
I found the instructors at the school to be very knowledgable, but
most weren't the best teachers in my opinion. They were strict and
at times even quite harsh/rude with the students almost alienating
themselves from us...it was a tough 6 weeks, but we all made it
through (with the exception of 1 or 2 who either dropped out or
never had the confidence to take their oral).
As a graduate my biggest problem I have with this school
is that they offer absolutely no post-graduate
support as far as finding a job. They have
no placement assistance at all and after 90 days I have not
had 1 single call or interview for a dispatch related job... before
I signed up, xxx was telling me i'd have a job within weeks...a
couple of months tops! To tell you the truth i'm at the end of my
rope financially and emotionally. I feel like i've thrown out $4,000
and all my efforts were a waste of time....Is there anything at
all you can do to help me?...perhaps letting me have access to your
job postings on the website?....getting me some interviews down
in florida maybe?...at this point I don't have the time or money
to take another course with a different school, but paying for some
sort of placement assiatance might be do-able for me.
Please...i don't know where to turn anymore. I need work. ..Seems
to me that all xxxxx xxxxxx cared about was the $$. Money
is important to a business obviously, I have no problem with that
(afterall that's a big part of the dispatchers job in the first
place...saving the company $$ in fuel and time) but there are also
lives/careers in the equation as well which they don't seem to be
very concerned with.
Please let me know if there's anything I can do before giving up
all hope on this for now...Thanks for taking out the time to read
this.
K.D.
(graduate of another dispatcher school)
Date:
Wed, 3 Sep 2003 02:52:11 +0100
To: "Eric Morris" <morris@sheffield.com>
Subject: Sheffield question
Mr. Morris,
Thank you very much for the quick response.
A friend of "my friend" attended your school (I am not
sure which year) and recommends your course - especially the solid
weather part.
I was satisfied with the XXXXX course overall, but I felt the weather
part was not much compared to your curriculum which I can see in
your broucher. I have not decided yet if I will apply for the one
starting on 20th October.
Best regards,
Sxxxx
P.S.
(Sheffield note) He was offered a chance to sit through an accelerated
or full length course as a "refresher" at the regular
tuition costs. Sheffield graduates receive refresher training for
free. So why didn't he go back to his school for their refresher
training???
Date:
Tue, 3 Jul 2007 16:38:53
Subject: Filght Dispatcher's training
Dear Sir
I am working in the United-Kingdom ... I am coming to my retirement
but would like to continue working in the civil aviation world.
I DO HOLD FAA (USA) FD licenec (sic) on B727-200 from MSP xxx school
in 19--. But, I have not exercised my licence.
Question: What I have to do to make it valid? I am interested in
ETOPs only, the cost and then employment scope.
I will appreciate you reply.
Thank you kindly
Kind Regards
B. -----
July 3rd 2007
P.S.
(Sheffield note) A Sheffield graduate receives a discounted ETOPs
tuition. Our school also assists our graduates with all their questions,
job assistance, etc.. So why didn't this graduate get help from
his school???
SEVIS-Approved:
Based on the following type of email, which we recently received
from this unlucky person, being SEVIS-approved may be meaningless
at some schools:
From:
p-------@xxxxxx.-->
Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:18:34
Subject: URGENT URGENT APPLICATION
Dear Sir/Madam,
I am ----- ------ from xxxx working for xxxx Air and reacently (sic)
I got promoted to Flight Operations department and I am getting
my new salary after I complete my FAA Dispatch License. I had registered
with (a school in Texas) and after all admission process I have
already Obtained My Leave from the company & USA M1 VISA, Transit
Visa for UK and Tickets to DFW with me. But suddenly
they cancelled the class and I am in a trouble.
I have leave from 19SEP2007 to 02NOV2007 and I need to Enroll with
your any of the Courses going on on these days. Even the 4 Weeks
expressed (sic) course is alright since I work for Operations. Please
Reply me Immidiately (sic) and I am willing to Pay your Fees Now
even, and I need Accomodation as well.
Please find out and reply (to) me fast...
THANKS
----- ------
Although
we are sympathetic to the unfortunate circumstances thrust upon
certain individuals who have been let down by their school, Sheffield
School has an obligation to assist OUR graduates first and foremost.
Our assistance FOLLOWING graduation, whether job search related,
airline advice, or technical support is part of what separates us
from the rest.
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